Event ID: 1734385 Event Started: 3/30/2011 5:00:00 PM ---------- Please stand by for realtime captions. >> Please stand by for realtime captions. >> >> I am going to have Kathy get us started will continue with our webinar. >> >> This is Kathy. I'm going to tell you about this platform we are using and we'll get started with the WATAP presentation this is for those of you listening to the computer. You should be able to see the slides on the major part of the screen. If you want, you can change this for size if you change your cursor to the borders of the public chat and you can move that back and forth if you want to chat to the bigger, WATAP will have charge of the slides that will forward them. You can send a chat server one can see it. You can type in the metal box and the track to appear. The section that is above that. If you want to send a private chat to somebody, you can go to the list under the texting area you will see everyone's names listed and if you right click on one of those names will give you the option of the first option and a box will pop up for you to type text. If you have questions or comments throughout the presentation, please type them and this text chat and the metal box and we will be following as we go in trying to answer as we go. We don't get to your question, maybe we overlook to and you can type it again, we will leave sometime for questions and answers and we will try to answer through them as they go and I will pause for a moment to see if anyone has any questions about how the platform works and if not, we will have -- and Kurt start the presentation. A >> We would like to welcome everyone to the first webinar on how to select a computer. The first portion is going to be a disclaimer for people who are computer savvy. This presentation is primarily intended for individuals or consumers who are not familiar with technology and made some suggestions on what to look for four purchasing a computer that will meet most people's needs we will address hardware upgrades that need to be taken into assistive technology. Before we get started who like to ask people who are joining us to meet yourselves and participants who are listening to the computer are muted. We will take selected questions on the computer webinar platform and feel free to -- we will not be able to answer all the questions during the webinar today but we will make available a list of the questions and answers after the webinar is completed. We will have available a transcript we will start with introductions. I am Kurt Johnson every ability should counselor counselor at the rehabilitation center. And Icoordinate with WATAP to provide demos and evaluations and I am a training coordinator in addition to overseeing the training workshops and presentations and also joining us, sitting behind us, and keeping a close eye on us, as a senior specialist lending programs in addition to providing assistive technology and evaluations. A better way to assistive technology solutions. It is a federally funded program terms of financing through partnership through Washington Access funand WATAP is a program for the center of technology and disability studies and the University of Washington and works with partners to Washington residents of all ages with any form of disability. How they cannot, process for problem solving functional needs to making informed decisions a justification of purchasing office for the project you choose Anthony won't disability of their support providers by utilizing programs hands-on guidance by specialist device one thing, we will try to let you try products in your own environments to let you make the best decisions before making a financial investment and Evergreen exchange, which is a free online site where individuals can buy, sell, trade, or exchange technology and durable medical equipment. We have another disclaimer that I forgot about. Any mention of products today are not recommendations or endorsements that simply going to be used as an example to assist in the review of our discussion. First, the basics, and how you're going to use your computer. Some of the questions you want to start asking yourself, where are you going to use that? At your desk? From bed? A wheelchair? On the bus? Is the need for portability important to you? How about the color of the machine? Some people think that is not important that the machines have various colors they can choose from or the finish or the towers have backlighting on them. Also, the laptop door latch. >> Frequently I had people who have fine motor deficits fatigue issues with their hands or a very difficult time and latching the door on the laptop and raising the door. Another issue would be worthy -- the on and off button or the switches placed in some people may have a difficult time independently activating that switch. It is good ahead of time to review those issues and talk with the vendor of the computer to identify where those locations might be. Some of the other questions would be, what would you be doing on your computer? Reading and writing e-mail or surfing the web. >> Maybe you will be performing word processing or budgeting on spreadsheets and other tasks and some people are watching video and are you going to be able to watch a video on disks that you get from some of the local stores or are you going to be online using Netflix and viewing it that way? >> Other concerns of the downloading, editing photos music video profiles some people want a video conference and I am talking about Skype and maybe you Oprah viewers remember she frequently uses Skype to communicate with people. Do we want to manipulate large databases or data files were play games and are those games going to be online available on a CD or do they need to be downloaded on the computer? We need assistive technology to access the computer and I am going to call it a T. -- AT . Is that hardware or software and is the AT newer or older versions? The last question would be, what type of peripherals we need and you will see that word frequently, vendor information, any type of computer equipment, keyboards, what web cameras, scanners printers routers. And next to much talk about the types of computers that are available and those types would be that books laptops and desktops. We will start with the notebooks and they are frequently under $500 and are very basic and very portable and have small machines designed primarily for performing basic office tasks reading and writing e-mails and browsing the Internet. These typically have an optical drive which is a CD drive and the drawer that pops out when you press a button in that drawer is not the place coffee cups on but to drop your CDs into have an understanding. These notebooks will have undersized keyboards that are less powerful and have less memory. Unless it is an alternative mouse or keyboard, don't expect a lot of assistive technology software to work well or consistently on the books. The one thing that is great, if you're using Microsoft operating systems you will still have accessibility options such as on-screen keyboards magnification and that type of thing. >> Something else to note, they have a very small screen size. >> That is true. >> On the other hand they are placed in a position for people to see them whether you are in bed laptops are around $500 and above they range from under 3 pounds until where you can go from high-end desktops of the same type of options available that may have larger viewing screens. I want you also to consider the screen size resolution battery life the more the laptop is going to weigh and cost. A 19 inch laptop can weigh 10 pounds and cost more than $1800. Other issues are replacing the keyboard, upgrading parts and components such as the graphics card of sound cards and processes will be problematic with the laptop. >> Most laptops come with a trackpad mouse with the -- which is a navigational device and people can use them for moving the mouse around but it can also function by tapping the pad with your finger so if you have people that might want to use a trackpad the lab tech -- laptop might be an alternative is that as a has it built-in. >> We talked about desktops. These are down to $300 and above. I can remember when we used to think we could get a computer for less than $1000, that would be a dream. But a lot of the desktops are around $350 in the options are nearly endless for the desktop so it can be considered when you need for stability and portability the laptops can provide or if you find work at a desk or a designated place in the home or office, desktops frequently offer more options for graphics and video and sound and are generally easier to upgrade >> [Host has lost audio. Please stand by. Captioner is standing by.] >> >> Everybody else, could you let us know if you're listening so we can verify? >> We are talking about using a Mac versus a PC. Some of the examples operating systems, the Mac accessibility features are not limited to high contrast reverse video and voice over voiceover is a built-in screen reading system with full plug-and-play support for braille support. This is a major benefit as the end user doesn't have to pay for extra screen reading software and upgrades whereas, with a PC accessibility features, may include speech recognition, on-screen keyboard with prediction, screen magnification and fully functional and comparable to similar software that one might purchase online or in the store. We think about software some of the software programs may not be available for both systems if you have a particular software application, check with -- first to see if it is available for the PC and the Mac before you decide to switch. The commuters to medicate with devices like printers and the initial set of drivers. Everyone has heard the word drivers please check with the driver manufacturer to make sure these drivers are available for the PC and the Mac. >> The moral of the story, by the most machine you can buy. At the time, the better composed, the longer the computer is going to last. Some thoughts on specifications that you plan to use your computer for standard office productivity and basic Internet tasks, almost any process is going to do for those that run assistive technology software, and may use databases or watch DVDs and stream video, consider using 3 GHz core chips for anyone playing games or editing audio or video on a regular basis, are having a dual process is a minimum and one may consider using four quarter processor and the next area with the memory and we discuss memory we have more installed memory means better system performance and more applications you can run smoothly at the same time those running assistive technology software. The operating system often dictates the minimum memory required or needed one or 2 GB areas where most users should start. It is always most cost effective to purchase the amount of memory and start by having it preinstalled and using the extra sides to expand memory in the future. >> When upgrading memory and the desktop it's very easy to learn how to do and doing so on a lab top is more involved than usually not too difficult to figure out. >> Here is an interesting fact, the first Macintosh commercial retail for $2495 and had 128 kB of memory. That is about .125 MB. Very little amount of memory so it is interesting to see how far we have come and that was back in 1984. >> I wasn't even born. >> I don't think any of us were. >>) I have coffee cups older than that to my office. >> The next section is graphic and video cards the standard integrating graphics card is built into the system and good for about every user that is out there. Unless you intend to use high death video, DVDs or consider higher quality and dedicated graphic cards of their own memory and processor specifically for processing video images. The hard drive, most users donate more than 80 to 120 GB of storage. If you plan to store large amounts of file and data like digital pictures or music or movies, the bigger the drive, the better. People that work with big databases using spreadsheets or digital videos or music or video files you are thinking bigger up to 500 GB to 750 and sometimes up to a terabyte. >> A terabyte is 1000 GB and is about 470 hours of broadcast on the video. That is a lot of memory. >> It is. >> I think we are going to see those kinds of options sooner than later as well. >> Some desktops come with terabyte hard drives installed in them. >> We are moving on to slide 14. >> Slide 14 we are talking about optical drives CD and DVD players or DVR players. Most software comes on a CD or DVD for installation, all PCs need some form of drive, a CD-ROM to be Ron Baird minimum internal or external for just a little more money you can also consider a read writable drive for backing up and burning your data to the CD or DVD what you consider a Blu-Ray disc or HD DVD if you intend to view these types of DVDs on your computer monitor. >> DVD seems to be the standard. >> Blue Ray. >> You're confusing me. >> You're giving me a hard enough time. >> These drives are a combination of read and write and are frequently called super drives. Another section we will talk about his external storage for backing up files photos and music and most people think of these as thumb drives were small micro drives that can be bought cheaply through most stores and the amount of data you can put on those range from 1 GB to 64 GB anymore the price starts to shoot up for the small drives and really doesn't make it worthwhile anymore. You need more space and 64-bit or other types of the external hard drive that can be used to backup and store your files and East can be desktop models for small models and devices that are portable. This guy is becoming the limit on how much limit these external drives have, one or 2 TB is what one could reasonably afford. I once talk about monitors and screen size. A 13 or 15 inches screen for laptops or age 17 to 19 inch monitor for desktops should be perfectly fine for most users. One might consider using a 21 to 23 inch screen as many costs a little bit more than in 19 inch counterpart at this point in time. Anybody using a screen magnifier will want a larger screen or monitor. The LCD monitors are much better than the older CRT monitors with better image clarity. Less weight and can easily be mounted to a monitor arm flexibility or positioning. >> Apparently size does matter. >> The older monitors are -- monitors, they look like the old television unit and they are virtually no longer commercially available except for those who are doing high-end video or high-end graphics they actually do have better color picture quality than the LCD's believe it or not. Digital video connection is coming more widespread the digital video audio connectors both deliver higher quality digital signals and especially useful for those working with graphics or watching high-definition video for playing 3-D games. I want to acknowledge the dead, we see her question about recommendations for 32-bit versus 64-bit. Specifically for use with speech dictation and we will answer that towards the end of the presentation. >> Another area want to get into a sound at home or in the office, most of the basics are fine integrated sound system is more than adequate for most of us including myself then you have the movie and audio files and they consider using surround sound and a speaker kit. >> The speaker kit would contain a subwoofer which would dramatically increase the sound quality of the home system and even if the speaker said is inexpensive, the screen reader users should strongly consider using to sound cards for the desktop. >> Extra sound cards are fairly inexpensive and pretty simple to install on my desktop. >> Next thing I'm going to cover his communications and most PCs come with an ethernet port for broadband access you want to connect to the Internet wirelessly you also want to be in a wireless network adapter card so once you consider a router if you plan to network two or more computers in your office or home, you should consider a router with a gigabyte ethernet which would give you a faster local network connection and if you tend to use dial-up and not very many people do, but if you intend to use dial-up Internet access or need a fax line for your computer, you also need a 50 6K modem port as well. You're going to touch on peripherals and other computer devices almost all systems when you purchase them, including USP 100 high -- 105 keyboard and a optical mouse with a scroll wheel, and you want to stay away from, I am not sure if they are available for purchase is a PS/2 connection device and those devices have the round connector. Wireless keyboards and mice are offering more flexibility for people to position in various places in that type of thing. If you need an alternative mouse or keyboard, during the time of purchase, skip those devices when you are buying sometimes you will get a break by not adding those to your system. If you need to adapt your computer system to help with mobility. Consider using an arm support peripheral device support possibly a two or three link monitor arm to get you a lot of flexibility up and down as well as right to left. And then also consider having an adjustable desk for greatest flexibility. And the last, I guess it is not the last of the operating system but let's talk about, Windows 7 home premium and the Mac snow leopard or the minimum to consider most software hardware that needs we have today, almost all of the new PC computers will come with a 64-bit operating system. >> If you are using existing hardware requires installation of device drivers and we talked about this earlier. If you need device drivers in order to operate a program the device, you want to check with the manufacturers they should have the updated driver available for the most current operating system. Your software should also be checked against the manufacturers specifications but they should make those drivers available if you decide to -- a new version. >> Some people are concerned about the 32 or 64 bit operating system at that point you may want to talk to the vendor or manufacturer were to some staff to make those decisions. When you think about additional software for the computer anomaly your machine should have some form of antivirus software and spyware or an office suite and Internet browser Microsoft office -- offers free antivirus spyware in the downloadable version of securities and essentials and there are several other free versions of virus control that is available out there free where such as open office or Google docs which provides you the office tools you might need are great but neither of them offers any accessibility for a screen reader and those that are requiring a string screen reader might want to consider using JRTE for Windows or text edit on the Mac and basic Internet browsers include Microsoft Explorer, Firefox Safari, and Opera. >> All right. We are in slide 22. >> The summary, unless you are looking at a net good, some of the very basic computer needs your going to have, everyone needs a minimum of one or 2 GHz processor, 2 GB of RAM. Hundred and 82 2 GB of RAM. Hundred and 8260 GB on your hard drive if you need some form of integrated graphics and sound cards and read write DVD or CD-ROM and you need at least three USB port, a gigabyte of ethernet and your WiFi switches for those needing to access your Internet wirelessly. Most off-the-shelf computers sold on line are the retail shops are gonna have these. >> You walk into Best Buy and you see a computer that you want to purchase, they are going to fall into this range, even if you want to go online and purchase a desktop or laptop they're going to fall into this range. For most people to are looking for a computer for pretty basic needs, pretty much anything you can purchase online or at the store will work for you. >> If you need a more improved performance for your assistive technology needs that type of thing it is best to consider dual core processors up to a four core processor. The one dedicated graphics for audio cards you'll probably want more than three and possibly for gigabytes of RAM. 250 GB hard drive if you are going to use software for a screen reader or a screen magnifier. Sometimes people want to use learning suites of their those kinds of software applications that have study tools, wizards, -- 3000. Also you may want to consider, for those media users, to get better video photo or music editing options as well as those issues for gamers. So some of the shopping tips we want to talk about warranty and technical support in most hardware problems occur within the first year so a one-year warranty should be fine. Most users consider upgrading or replacing their monitoring three or five years to an extended warranty is usually not worth the cost. >> The monitor or the computer? >> The computer. >> Just checking. >> You trying to confuse me and get me off track aren't you? >> That is my job. >> We are talking about software maintenance agreements on the other hand are a great value and once you buy them, they are going to entitle users to upgrade at a much reduced price down the road. Next, user ratings on website like Amazon or PC Magazine to determine which computer provides the best or worst technical support and warranty support and I think this is a key issue for a lot of people for first-time computer users to make sure you have good technical support. You might also want to check on restocking fees or return policies before you buy should know what rules there are before you decide to return that device or product. Look for connectivity upfront. USB look for at least two USBs in the front seat and connectable to pull devices without having to go around to the back of your machine. Another issue would be other ports he would have available on the front of those may be for audio orbited -- video connectors that will be a can -- option for the front of the desktop computer. >> Somebody told me they walked into a Staples office supply store and they were talking to some of the salespeople and it turns out that they turn over their entire computer stock every three or six months due to new technology and models. >> I think that is a good reason not to play the waiting game. If you keep waiting for better hardware or software, you're going to wait forever. >> As we said earlier, by the most machine you can buy at the time and the better the install components are the longer your computer will last. I think you should also consider upgrading hardware and software at the time of purchase. If you can get a better deal or a larger hard drive and more memory, better monitor or a better office suite when you first order your computer. When you purchase -- when you purchase arrives, check the packing slip to make sure what you purchased is what you received. And then lastly, don't forget your assistive technology. If you know what AT you are going to be using by the best system that will support that assistive technology because each person's assistive technology needs are unique it's difficult to get into the specific hardware or software configurations so many combinations you're wondering what are you would work best with your specific needs either request individual consultation through WATAP at this time. >> I think we are going to move in and half -- come on and have her discuss access. >> Financing. I'm going to hand the microphone to grantee. >> >> Hello. >> I can't hear anything. >> Okay. Just stand by please. >> Our mission is to promote access to technology of people with disabilities. I want to tell you a little bit about our programs and I should say that we offer loans for computers and we do by a few computers. Basically, can you hear me now? >> >> Okay good. We offer low-interest loans and matched savings accounts for assistive tech knowledge he and for business equipment and car loans can cover computers and related hardware and software plus any needed services including training and maintenance repairs an extended warranty. The computer doesn't need to be a dab. You just need to show that qualifies as a center -- assistive technology and business equipment and we can talk to you a little bit about how you do that. Our loans for all types of assistive technology for any purpose and assistive technology is probably defined to include any device that maintains or enhances functional capabilities of a person with a disability and we also offer business equipment loans for employment or self-employment. Interest rate is 5% of the loans quotes $10,000 per terms of up to five years and the term is determined by balancing the useful life of technology with the cost of the item and the individual's budget and their ability to pay. So for computers, our loans are typically 1 to 3 years and to give you an idea of what the cost is, on a $600 loan a one-year term would be $51 in a two-year term would be $26. On a $1200 loan on the other hand, a two-year term would be $53 and a three-year term would be $36. That would give you a rough idea of the monthly costs. In terms of eligibility, our programs available to you, low-interest loans are available to individuals with all types of disabilities, magical -- mental physical or sensory family members and others, employers, as long as the equipment is owned by the person with disability. There are no upper or lower income limits that the applicant must show the ability to read -- pay. And poor credit is also not a disqualifier basically we evaluate the individual's circumstances on a case-by-case basis. And client did not meet our regular underwriting standards may be eligible for a $500 credit builder love if they have the cash flow to make the loan payment. That is basically a loan designs to help people get a piece of technology but also start to rebuild their credit as well in many of our clients are low income, very low income and the number on SSI. >> As far as the process goes, you can find loan applications online and the website is Washington access funds.organa can also call us will be happy to send out applications and we can make a phone call and take your application over the phone. The application requests information about the equipment you want to purchase the cost of the equipment and also had asked for information about income expenses assets and liabilities and that sounds like a lot but the reason why we do that is because a lot of our clients are low income and on fixed incomes so this provides us an opportunity for people to show that they can make a loan payment. Next, our staff hopefully credit report and then we will contact the applicant typically about any questions that we have on the credit report or your application. And the applications are submitted to the loan review committee and it meets on the first and third Wednesdays of the month and I want to quickly note the loan review committee is comprised primarily of people with disabilities who are assistive technology users. It is typically about two weeks from the complete application to a decision. Faster for loans under 1200. We take the computer as collateral and his loaner is required to provide proof of homeowner's or renter insurance they're happy they had insurance and play we set up an automatic payment we set it up and it is automatic. They are reported to the credit bureaus through credit builders alliance and the goal is to help people improve their credit as part of this dross us and we are happy to say that we have seen great improvements for some client. I tried to identify other resources to help for example we have a resource list on three low-cost computers and other topics on hearing and vision equipment and various funding sources as well. >> Next slide please. >> Here are some quick tips on using the access funds loans >> You're going to want to ask about warranty return policies we don't want our clients to be stuck with a broken computer or having a loan that we still need to repay. We have had a circumstances where people have to take advantage. Make sure it includes taxes warranties and shipping and quite often you will get a quote from a vendor or service provider and it will be without those items included. >> Log committee would look at your application and how much you want to borrow and pre-approve a loan up to a certain amount, a loan that is appropriate for the budget that you can go out and shop and know how much you have to spend. And also makes the process go much faster so you can catch that deal. And then he received the computer I can't say how important it is to use it immediately and also to check to be sure exactly the received exactly what you ordered and immediately contact the vendor if there are any issues in terms of discrepancies are you decide some piece of the equipment is not working for you. We have had clients have had both of those kinds of issues. Next slide please. The second way you can find computers for the access funds is through the matches savings or individual development accounts. And through these programs, low income individuals with disabilities and individuals living in low income households can save up to $4000 for business equipment or for assistive technology and receive an equal amount in matching funds. These programs are funded through the access funds business equipment -- we do have a number of openings. Next slide. The savings -- individual must have a disability and they must live in, or they can be about income household where they can buy the individual and for example, parents buying equipment for their underage child. Teens can start to save before they are 18 as long as they're a team that's assigned to -- is purchased we are thinking this would be a good program for students in transition. Household income must be at or below 80% of the median and you must have net assets of $20,000 or less and you can exclude certain things including your home, a vehicle and certain medical expenses and AT expenses. In terms of process, there are applications online or you can call and request an application or week and send it to you by e-mail. The application is longer so probably the phone application process may not work very well for this program. >> Protect them from having the asset count, the savings account as an asset for purposes of SSI and programs of asset limits. And savings like loan repayments savings is typically violate a funds transfer on the days and chosen by the participant. For the process disciplines have three years to reach their savings goals. They must save $10 a month and actually earn and spend their match on a computer and other forms of assistive technology they must have stayed consistently for at least six months have taken financial education training and we can provide a list of resources to help with that we are hoping to develop our own financial education program. And then take assistive technology as appropriate business training. Once your savings goal is reached we work with the client to identify the equipment to be purchased we make payment directly as with the loan program. And it's a new program and we are very excited it is a great option if you can wait six or eight months before getting your pewter otherwise -- the loan program. >> Next slide please. >> And then there are lots of other funding options several funding options that you may want to consider and I don't think I have time to cover all those today that he would like to call us or contact us I would be more than happy to talk to you about some of those options and retailer financing. Most of the big companies including Apple, Best Buy etc. offer their own financing and that is something you want to check out carefully and whether or not it is a good deal for you will depend on what your particular credit situation is and how quickly you would be able to repay it. I know there are sounds that offer zero interest loans if you can pay with in a year but if you don't, are missing payment, the interest rate shoots up very high. Of course disclose will require to require computers and technology under computers with disability act and section 50 for a book rehab programs are required to provide assistive technology for individuals in the process and help them graduate from that process and we have various regulations that we can share with people. Past plans and work expenses. >> Finally, we do have a list of free and low-cost computers as well. That is it, feel free to contact us of the need for more information about those. Next slide. Here is a list of our staff Kathy is our program director and I am the executive director and happy to answer questions about funding and Leanne is their match the savings account coordinator and -- be happy to answer questions as well. And that is it for us right now. Are there any questions, please feel free to contact us and our next slide, that will show our general contact information. >> Thank you. That was fantastic. So I'm going to take us back to this is the WATAP contact information in case you want to get a hold of us and ask us questions about if you have specific questions about looking for a computer specific configurations for software and a T. hardware, you can e-mail us or you can give us a call our website is also listed as well. >> And so at this point, we would like to go back to Doug's question and the question is, do you have a recommendation for 32-bit versus 64-bit operating system for voice activated programs like Dragon? >> It seems that most newer systems and we are talking specifically about PCs, most systems come shipped with 64 it so as far as which one would work better with Dragon naturally speaking, we would recommend going to the new ones website as a -- Nuance website as that list specifications of which particular thing of Dragon would meet your needs best. >> You want to add anything? Just go back and check to get information. Again, I have looked all over and I am hard pressed to find any 32-bit system available online these days. Most are 64-bit for PCs and most come with the new Windows 7 operating system and again, Windows 7 also have some voice recognition options available within the operating system. >> That is right. Do you have a crush they would like to ask either -- or grant or myself? >> Bryan hands a question. A lot of people who are doing e-mail and Web browsing and video watching seemed to be thinking about tablets versus a net good. What about accessibility features on the iPAQ or android-based tablets? >> That is a good question. The iPad has accessibility features built into it. It has voice over Internet also has high contrast we mentioned earlier. Android has some accessibility features there are some better built-in but there are some that are being developed by a third party developer. It's really a personal preference as far as which operating system again you would want to use the android worthy I pad and which assistive technology would want to use with that. There are demonstration and loan program we have iPad and iPOD touches which are available for loan and we do have some accessibility applications installed on the Mac products so if you want to try those out you could give us a call or you can e-mail us. We are working on getting some android devices so we condemn those and loan those so stay tuned for that and hopefully those will be coming soon. >> One of the things to keep in mind, what the tablets for the most part, you're not going to be installing or downloading any kind of software that may meet your needs, it is not available on the tablets and it's also not going to be able to access some devices that are available out there because the iPAD there is no USB. There is Bluetooth but no USB or anything to hook up devices. >> Okay. >> Looks like we have a question. Will the slides be available question mark yes. We can make the slides available to you and we can send them out to your e-mail. >> Okay. Kathy has a question. You have any recommendations for computers to be used for ASL video relay? >> I'm going to have to do some research on that because I am not that well-versed in the specifications for ASL video relay so we will take that question Dan and do some research and make all these questions and researched answers available to those who are interested. Thank you, Kathy, for that question and we will do some research and see if we can get you a more cohesive answer. >> Doug has a question. It looks like it is a statement. Doug says I have a iPAD there are some apps that are voice family but I would not recommend it for the only product that you use. OS five is going to be a lot better with voice features. I know there is a Dragon dictator. >> That is probably what he is referring to. It is very basic but for some people, it works very well but again, is not the answer for all the issues that we need with voice recognition as well. >> The new android system, I am not sure what is coming with those with regard to application for voice recognition. Does anybody know? >> It does have voice recognition for voice dialing but it does not have any dictation that is noteworthy. I don't think, the last time I checked, hasn't been that recently, I don't think there was anything available for the android operating system. So, no. >> Okay. Doug's response, Dragon speak his basic ended a server-based so it's not pass. It does utilize the cloud for recognition. >> >> Maria wants me to explain the cloud. >> Okay. Some of you may have heard about the cloud computing. And what that is, essentially, how do I explain this? >> Taking all the software making it available, Windows office, some of the applications, word or that type of thing that is available through going into the Internet which is located on some servers somewhere in the community and having all those applications available rather than being installed on your hard drive on the computer. >> Very good. >> The idea behind all of that, everyone can access it and as more information is utilized through the cloud information becomes faster and better and accessing it becomes more accurate because it utilizes a lot of different sources. >> One thing we didn't mention, the memory that is available, I heard on the news last night, Amazon is now coming out with a option for people to drop all of their memory, their photos and music and whatever is on the hard drive into a memory bank similar somewhere that Amazon has said that. I am not sure of the cost. You will see more and more of this as we go on. >> Dropbox is another example >> Of a cloud system or you can back up your --. >> Something else I want to add, since this is our first webinar for WATAP, we would love later on, if you could drop us a note with regard to the positives and negatives, we would appreciate any constructive criticism you would have on helping us do a better webinar the next time. >> Where can you access the cloud? Is it available in rural areas? Cloud computing is dependent upon Internet access and the application that you are using. So for example, if you have an iPAD end you are in a rural area and you have WiFi enabled, and you are using DragonDictate, it will automatically use the cloud to transcribe what you are saying. So it's really accessed through whatever application or whatever means you are using at the time. >> Bryan informed us that Amazon is offering 5 GB of free storage if you buy an MP3-based album from them. Thank you. >> I use a laptop and have WiFi the availability so Shauna, you will have access to the cloud that it depends on -- any questions about financing? >> Tom asks Halley request a transcript, is a transcript of the audio? >> We will have both. We will have a digital file of the transcript and we will have an idea of file and we can make those available. We can probably e-mail that to you as we have your e-mail information and we will e-mail a transcript and the slides. You have a. Inky. >> Doug, can I get an e-mail the slides and how long the presentation was -- >> We weren't offering CPU. >> Maybe someone -- something we can consider in the future. >> Guess who might want to consider that in the future. >> Thank you. I'm going to be signing off. >> That was Kathy. >> Who was that? >> Nancy. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Can I get a transcript of the PowerPoint slides? >> We will send you the PowerPoint slides to your e-mail. If that will work. Doug says I can present them myself as long as I have the slides. Yes we will make sure we send you this live as well. >> Send you the slides as well. >> Thank you, Harper a. And thank you, Shauna. >> All right. I think that is it for questions. >> You have a question by phone? >> Basically, what e-mail address should we contact you if we want to get copies of the slides? >> The question is, what e-mail address should you send, if you want to request slides and transcript? >> Well, I guess >> If you registered for the class and you give us your e-mail because we will automatic he mailed everything to everyone that registered for the class. >> Perfect. I wasn't able to get online. >> For those on a computer who didn't hear the telephone conversations, we will make available to everyone who has registered for this class, the transcript PowerPoint presentation and audio portion of this webinar to everyone who has registered. Everyone has registered, sounds like we have your e-mail address and we will send that information out to you. >> Okay? >> Take you for joining the coffee hour. >> And Maria who is suspiciously quiet in the back row. It is very unusual for her. >> Thank you will be signing off. >> If you have other additional questions you can e-mail us at WATAP@UW.EDU. Thanks everyone. Goodbye. >> [Event concluded]